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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:10 am 
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I have found that the SOHC dostributor off of the tbi 1.3l swift have vaccum advance and will fit on the GTi head, it looks similar to the Mk1 Distributor. Wiring them requires taping into the two coil wires of the same color (Brown/Black and Black/White). This is an easy solution for those of us in North America without the MK1 GTi. This by passes the Crank angle sensor and requires that the fuel pump be run from some where else ( mine was origanally wired into the stock fuel pump relay).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:05 am 
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I think this needs to be an '89-'91 distributor. I have a '91 and a '92 SOHC 1.3 engine, the '92 distributor doesn't have the vacuum advance.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:07 am 
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Thanks I wasn't quite sure which years they came on.


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Thank you very much for finding that out.!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:43 pm 
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Can someone please send me or post the wiring diagram to use the sohc dist. I've been running the Electromotive, but have had 2 failures in the last year that have cost me races.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:23 am 
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From my '91 factory manual:
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Thanks, now I just have to find a distributor. Appears they are not as plentiful is I had hoped in Colorado.

Thanks again,

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Found a distributor. It has 2 wires coming out to the plug. A brown wire and a black wire with a white stripe. Which is pos and which is negative. Thanks for the pic Gasoline Fumes. I'm guessing the brown is + and the black/white stripe is -- .

Ordered a Procomp ignition box and coil today and the car is at the body shop. Parts from Suzuki RD should be here Thursday. Getting ready to head to Mid-Ohio for the last SCCA Runoffs there. Should be a good time.

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The black/white wire is the positive (ignition switch on), the brown is the negative ignition signal that fires the coil.

Good luck at the Runoffs! :)

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im in the process on fitting one of these dizzys to my mk2 swift gti engine on carbs how do i wire it up to a standard type lucas coil ?


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vauxsuki wrote:
im in the process on fitting one of these dizzys to my mk2 swift gti engine on carbs how do i wire it up to a standard type lucas coil ?


Is your distributor from the SOHC injected or carburetted engine?

These cars use breakerless ignition systems and the distributor from the carburetted car has the magnetic pickup and the igniter inside it, so that it's a complete ignition system requiring just the coil and 12V power to run. The wiring diagram for this style of distributor is 3 or 4 posts up, and it should work with a Lucas coil.

I could be wrong on this, but I believe the fuel injected cars have the magnetic pickup in the distributor, sending a signal to the ECU which in turn controls the igniter - which can be either internal or external to the ECU. With this type you would still need the ECU to fire the plugs.


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fordem wrote:
vauxsuki wrote:
im in the process on fitting one of these dizzys to my mk2 swift gti engine on carbs how do i wire it up to a standard type lucas coil ?


Is your distributor from the SOHC injected or carburetted engine?

These cars use breakerless ignition systems and the distributor from the carburetted car has the magnetic pickup and the igniter inside it, so that it's a complete ignition system requiring just the coil and 12V power to run. The wiring diagram for this style of distributor is 3 or 4 posts up, and it should work with a Lucas coil.

I could be wrong on this, but I believe the fuel injected cars have the magnetic pickup in the distributor, sending a signal to the ECU which in turn controls the igniter - which can be either internal or external to the ECU. With this type you would still need the ECU to fire the plugs.


The MK2 TBI 1.3L distributor with mechanic advance matches your description of the carburetted distributor. The MK2 TBI distributor loses all advance control and the ignitor. My MK3 ignitor is on the coil mounting bracket. And my MK3 1.0 had the ignitor inside the ECU.

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1992 Swift - Parts car (gone)
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1993 Metro - Parts car
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:20 am 
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i dont know if the sohc had carbs or not if it had to connect to the ecu and back would it not need 3 wire and this one has only 2 i will check and see what it had hope its right as i cant find a mk1 dizzy anywhere and i cant get the car to run.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:30 pm 
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Talk to Atchi/Miniswift or Dara/MadFor Tar on here. One of them may be able to help you out with the dizzy you require.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:30 pm 
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The Pics look the same as the SOHC Carb vertion I have an 88 and had an 87


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Okay, so with all that being said, which distributor can you use on a '92 DOHC 1.3L that will allow you to run without going through the ECU?

I want to put carbs on my DOHC and I need to know which dizzy I could use.


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