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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:58 pm 
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This thread will be for all of those who have information to share in regards to LSD modifications. If it is useless information I will delete the post and it can be started in a different thread. Pictures, advice, tips and information will all be very useful and left on.<br><br><br><br>-Kyle Jones <br><br>TeamSwift Administrator <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub83.ezboard.com/bteamswift.showUserPublicProfile?gid=whattheeee>Whattheeee</A> at: 1/9/03 5:59:50 pm<br></i>


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:01 pm 
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Taken from old posts and such on this topic for the real deal. Does not include experiences with the PG until someone posts their experiences in here.<br><br><br>--------------------<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://members.iinet.net.au/~rospen/suzuki.htm">members.iinet.net.au/~rospen/suzuki.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (says not available 'yet' on the site, but it is a really old site).<br> ----------------<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.racecar.co.uk/gripper/">www.racecar.co.uk/gripper/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> gripper lsds are available. I've heard it gives the car extremely heavy steering and one Grp A rally guy installed power steering (wimp). <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> -------------<br>ESRWORKSRACING sells Suzukisport LSD, $1500 U.S. esrworksracing.com <br>------------ <br>Suzitech in Thornleigh has been talking to a race engineering shop and they will build some LSD's in lots of 6, the price is about $1500AUS apparantly they built some last year and they have been very strong If anyone is interested either let me know or let Peter at Suzitech know on 0294845909<br>--------- <p>-Kyle Jones <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/de/ksj/myswift.html"><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> Junk-Yard Turbo set-up, formerly NOS-fed, constantly evolving 1989 Suzuki Swift GTi</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:36 pm 
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Kyle, as you are aware I have a simulated LSD in my car and love it.........just thought I would post this <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>This almost eliminates wheel hop, pulls through corners like mad and improves 60' times like crazy. <p>1989 Suzuki swift GTi<br>1970 AMX 360,auto,A/C<br></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:37 am 
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what is a "simulated" LSD? <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:05 am 
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basicly it is an assembly that works similar to the PG <p>1989 Suzuki swift GTi<br>1970 AMX 360,auto,A/C<br></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: "Fake" LSD :)
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 5:32 pm 
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How's the price, ease of fitting and its' ability through corners? <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: "Fake" LSD :)
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:15 am 
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Hey Tony, I am actually getting one of these as well! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> I am hoping it will be here before the weekend as this weekend is the most opportune time for me to install it. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> I might have to travel through the mountains to find some snow to see if I would be able to notice a difference all year round. <br><br>Waiting with baited breath to give my initial review and then eventually my follow up review. <p>-Kyle Jones <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/de/ksj/myswift.html"><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> Junk-Yard Turbo set-up, formerly NOS-fed, constantly evolving 1989 Suzuki Swift GTi</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: "Fake" LSD :)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 7:38 am 
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FYI:<br><br>ESR no longer has LSDs in stock, and they don't know when they'll have more.<br><br>Rospen has had difficulty making their LSDs, so currently none are available (but they are still optimistic).<br><br>Quaife America currently has one of my open diffs and they are seeing if there is ANYTHING they can do to make an existing unit fit. I am NOT crossing my fingers.<br><br>OPM Motorsports can convert an open diff to an LSD (not sure how, I'll try and get some info) for $675.<br><br>I'll keep everyone updated on the situation as I am informed of new developments...<br><br>--Roy <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: "Fake" LSD :)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 7:41 am 
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Roy,<br><br>I know theres a company in UK that has LSD for the GTi but I don't remember the name.<br><br>I have a torsen LSD like the quaife. <br><br>Bolivar <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: wow
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:34 pm 
Wow, under 700 for a LSD ? I am giving them a call ! <p></p><i></i>


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Bolivar, can you supply me with a part number for your Torsen? I am very familier with both the Type I and Type II units, but I was under the impression that neither were available for the swift. Where did you get it?<br><br>--Roy <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: amx
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:46 am 
amx where did u get ure 'simulated' lsd ? .. how much and where from ? thanksss <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: amx
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2003 7:32 am 
company in britain who do a plate type lsd is gripper diffs.<br>www.racecar.co.uk/gripper<br><br>£540 stirling<br> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: amx
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:24 am 
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I received some sketches and was told it worked. I took a chance and had some made. They work great! <p>1989 Suzuki swift GTi<br>1970 AMX 360,auto,A/C<br></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub83.ezboard.com/bteamswift.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amxdreamer>amxdreamer</A> at: 1/23/03 12:26:06 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Re: amx
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 1:21 pm 
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I just got an email from Ralph at Quaife America:<br><br>------------------------<br>Mr. Dean,<br><br>As we expected, there is nothing close that can be modified to work in your application. Your diff is probably the smallest unit we have seen, much smaller than a Civic or Rabbit differential. We are still taking measurements off of it for our files. We have contacted the head office in England about their interest in producing a production run and they responded that they have had mild interest from their European customers. This application may be produced but for right now until sufficient interest is generated it does not warrant a production run.<br><br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Ralph<br>-----------------------------<br><br>I suggest that if anybody is interested in a Quaife for there swift, they should contact Ralph at "info@quaifeamerica.com".<br><br>Ok. Buh-by for now.<br><br>--Roy <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: amx
PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 10:31 pm 
i need this lsd you made how much! email me son! http://www.mijerzmidaanmk@hotmail.com,w ... mk@aol.com! your system is butta! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: amx
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I tried to email you but you don't have your email address in your profile....... <p>1989 Suzuki swift GTi<br>1970 AMX 360,auto,A/C<br></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: AmXdreamer
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Hey I was wondering what kind of diff your using? can you e-mail me the info on it? jake_mc18@hotmail.com C205931@cambrianc.on.ca<br><br>I was also wondering what everybodies opinion is on a welded diff?? I'm not going to do it because I have heard of driveability problems but I'm being plagued by traction issues and it kinda sucks.<br><br>Jake <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2003 11:05 pm 
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basic physics, if you weld the diff both tires are always going to be turning @ the same rate. when you go around a corner the outside wheel needs to turn faster than the inside wheel & the ratio increases the tighter the corner. when you have a completely open diff, the weight transfers to the outside wheel & the inside wheel spins because it's easier than trying to turn the outside wheel & propel the car. with a limited slip or simulated limited slip it's going to try & keep the power applied to both wheels rather than letting the one take the whole lot & spin .. it can still happen, but unless one tire is actually in the air, you should be ok .. if you have a tire in the air, then you NEED a locker, but then again, you're probably driving a samurai & not a swift. if your swift lifts a front wheel you're probably going too fast & have no need to accelerate ..<br>if you weld the diff you end up w/ the same effect as a locker, except there is no free play so when you go around a corner something has to break; if your traction is too great, it will be the diff.. if you're driving on loose gravel/ice or drag racing, it will probably last for a bit 'tho.<br> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: ease of installation ?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:26 am 
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can anyone (who's installed a phantom grip or other simulated/spring lsd) tell me/us how difficult it is to install ? the tools required ? is this a 4 hour job or a 4 day event ? if the tranny is going to be opened up, should we swap the syncros at the same time ?<br>thanks =)<br>i'm pretty sure if i was to take it to a garage to have it installed, it would probably cost 3x's as much for the labour as it would for the part.<br> <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:46 am 
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If you take the tranny to Fred he will charge 3 hours labour to install. 6 hours if you take the car (I am going by memory here). I have instructions on how to install if you want to give me a call this weekend.<br><br>Tony <p>1989 Suzuki swift GTi<br>1970 AMX 360,auto,A/C<br></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 6:59 pm 
I got a set of these from amx. Will be installing them soon. The quality is excellent and your customer service is awesome. Cant beat the price. Let you know soon as i drop em in.<br>George <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 9:37 am 
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I talked to them last Friday. They are not going to make the Swift Phantom grip anymore. Part # 905 He said, That the people he has sold them to. Said they do not work well. Found out they are using them for road racing. I told him they sould still work fine for Drag. But I would say if you are going to get one. Now is the time. So if you order it now. Tell him you are using it for drag. Otherwise he says it does not work and he will no longer sell something that does not work. <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 9:53 am 
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The ones I make work great..........anyone? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2003 6:19 pm 
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Whenever my car is on the road again, I'll know. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I think it will good on either low boost or NA.... looking forward to it anyway. You'll hear from if it sux (and if it's good of course). <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:xx-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Kyle Jones<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/de/ksj/myswift.html"><br>Junk-Yard Turbo set-up, formerly NOS-fed, constantly evolving 1989 Suzuki Swift</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>


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