TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:34 pm

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 103 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 9:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2001 5:35 pm
Posts: 870
Location: SINGAPORE
Hi Tony, care to send me some info on your part? I'm really keen.<br><br>Lee <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:46 pm 
What's the price on yours and will it fit the 95-2001 US/Canadian cars, auto and stick, 1. and 1.3 ? <p></p><i></i>


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:25 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
Hey Lee I would if your email wasn't private <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I sell for 200 Canadian plus shipping <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 2:53 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2001 5:35 pm
Posts: 870
Location: SINGAPORE
Hi Tony, write to me at leeye@cromptoncorp.com. I like to know more about it.<br><br>Lee <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Tonys diff
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:25 am 
Tony add me to the list. I would also like more information regarding your diff can you send a drawing or photos?<br><br>Thanks <br>beats<br>KARWbeats@hotmail.com<br> <p></p><i></i>


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonys diff
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
To all of those interested. I don't have pictures. Sorry if this doesn't work for you. There are a few members here that will vouch for the product and the service. <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonys diff
PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2003 4:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2003 7:23 pm
Posts: 1071
Location: Lee's Summit, Missouri USA
I'll more than vouch for Tony on his diff. The product is high quality and the service was great. Sent him my money had my diff in a week (I'm in the US) with instructions. He's sent me several follow up emails asking if it's worked out ok, but unfortunately I don't have it in yet. He's great to deal with and highly recommended <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> . <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:44 am 
AMX ..whats does the lsd you made look like and how does it work?<br><br>thanks<br>beats <p></p><i></i>


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
It is not a "LSD" so to speak. It uses machined blocks and springs to apply pressure to both axels to create posi. They work very well in my car and can say nothing but positive things. I have a few people using these and they are all VERY happy with the results.<br><br> <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:14 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:29 pm
Posts: 125
Location: BC
Okay, the low down on the "simulated lsd", I did purchase it from Tony awhile back. Honestly, he did explain exactly what he was selling. It does work great for accelerating, cornering is a bit better, but wider a bit. the thing is that it is always active even while decelerating because of the pressure plate design. it costs 600-800 dollars cdn in a cheap transmission shop to install and replace the spider gear pin and synchro gear. that part sucked big time, but the actual grips were cheap. It is much better to buy an LSD to swap in place of the spider gear because you can do it yourself. I emptied the transmission fluids after a few thousand kms and found a lot of fine metal filings which were pretty obvious even before i installed the tranny; I was even using a higher viscosity fluid. In my opinion, the fabrication look great, but the springs that came with it looked like crap. You can get better springs from Dendoff Springs in Surrey. If you have money to blow, it seems the most available option at the moment for 2 wheel traction. I have to admit, it is fun to have. Maybe if the designs of these plates were altered a bit to have some sort of clutch material placed into the metal grips would be better instead of having direct metal to metal contact with the spider gears. For those who are going to use it, I recommend not using just regular MTF. Just remember, you get what you pay for. <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:30 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
Are you the guy that wanted a refund AFTER you took the parts? Who did you take your car too for installation? They charged you way too much! I could have had it installed for 400 bucks canadian with you just dropping off the car at the shop.<br><br>Thanks for your input, I think... <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:29 pm
Posts: 125
Location: BC
Yes, I wanted the money back after I took the part because as soon as I saw how "ghetto" the springs looked. I did pick up the springs for the part at a later time if you recall. I think you should get properly coiled springs made up, it would look much more impressive if the coils were designed to look similar to valve springs where they have proper seats. In my opinion, any LSD is fun to have tried for the first time. The install was actually going to be $350, but the tranny i had was worn in a bit and I decide to replace the synchro and spider gear pin which are inherent problems in the swift. Normally, products should cost more than the installation; I mean $200 is a good deal for those out there who have excellent condition tranny's to put it into. I don't like to bash any swift member willing to help out, so Tony is a good guy for even making an LSD available for the Swift. Try it, you may like it, just remember to maintain the transmission. <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
Thanks for clearing that up. Is it possible those filings were from the other tranny work done? <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LSD.....lucy?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:19 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
I forgot to mention, I know a fellow that daily drives his car and races it SCCA full time and has nothing but good things to say about the part (and he breaks LOTS of stuff). <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:29 pm
Posts: 125
Location: BC
That's good, i dont think i'd buy another unless it was my last resort. Sorry, if I didn't like the chopped springs that came with it. I hear you have custom dual coiled springs in your lockers, is this true? Got any pics? <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
I think my springs are cut the same as yours (I didn't see yours) except I am running double springs. You are putting to much emphasis on the way the springs are cut and the fact there is no "seat". The main concern with springs losing there seat (eg cutting them on a cars suspension) is that they can shift and pop out of the mount. This can NOT possibly happen on these as it is under pressure at all times and they mount into the blocks quite deep. <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: diff
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:58 pm 
Has anybody tried to get a diff from their suzuki dealer? suzuki sells a gear type lsd that fits the swift and maybee the samurai. i have one in my car and it works beautiful, no torque steer.almost transparent in operation but greatly improves traction <p></p><i></i>


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: diff
PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:48 pm 
Offline
Former TeamSwift Admin
Former TeamSwift Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:58 am
Posts: 8146
Location: Seattle, WA
where are you ? do you have a part# for it ? & what sort of cost ? sounds great ! <p></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:13 pm 
Has anyone out there installed a phantom grip yet? If so let me know how it is Im running 200+ HP and just blew up my tranny so Im deciding if I should get a LSD or Phantom Grip thanks <p></p><i></i>


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Phantom grip
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
I am running a unit that is similar to the PG it works great in my car (meesley 134 NA HP) but from what Kyle says it starts to slip in the HIGH hp turbo cars. If your interested email me. <p>Tony<br><br>Proud owner of<br>1970 AMX 360/auto with A/C<br>1989 Suzuki Swift GTi<br></p><i></i>


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:54 pm 
Offline
Senior Swift Guru

Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 11:55 am
Posts: 2595
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Sorry, I haven't had time to fill in a big report on the PG. It did seem to work for a short time and now it is back to being open (from driving and tests from jacking up the car). Have to take 'er apart and see what's up.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:56 am 
Offline
Senior Swift Guru

Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 11:55 am
Posts: 2595
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Tony, what kind of springs are in these? Any possibility that the heat cycles have done to what heat does to certain springs... wreck 'em?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:35 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
HMMMM I don't know Kyle, mine still works fine after over a year. Let me know what's up. I can't log on at home due to the Shaw fiasco, and it's been too busy at work.

_________________
Tony

Proud owner of :

1970 AMC AMX
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi (gone, my baby is gone :( )
1993 T-Bird


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:19 pm
Posts: 640
Location: The Netherlands
I was wondering if i make about 5000 or 6000 rpm when standing still and then dump my clutch do my wheels spin with this LSD of yours? amxdreamer?

And i'm probably having made new gears for my gearbox only the ones we would try and make are gears with straight teeth (just like most rallycars have) to get more hp at the wheels. Thing is would ur homemade LSD still fit when i do this. It might be a dumb question but i have not opened up my gearbox before and i don't have a good idea how ur part looks and where it is placed in the gearbox :)

_________________
Lightweight swift with B16A1
Image
UPDATED 15-02-2006http://www.cardomain.com/id/blurpie and http://swift.carsforever.nl

Q: Why did God create blondes?
A: Because sheep can't bring beer from the fridge.
Q: Why did God create brunettes?
A: Neither could the blondes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2001 9:19 am
Posts: 971
Location: Canada
Randy, first off why would you dump your clutch at those kind of RPM's? You can't possibley hook up and it is just hard on parts.

The unit is a simulated LSD. It uses friction to get both wheels locked. I have tested my unit at 2500-3000 and it does leave posi. The problem with some of the high boost cars like Kyles is it has so much torque it appears to be overpowering the unit (from what I hear here). For a low boost unit or a N/A car they work great.

_________________
Tony

Proud owner of :

1970 AMC AMX
1989 Suzuki Swift GTi (gone, my baby is gone :( )
1993 T-Bird


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 103 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group