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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:04 pm 
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Could someone help me out with some info on these parts. I would like to know where does synchro in a firts pic fit. It looks like synchro for Mk1 third and fourth gear but I dont have the part number to confirm . Also if you have part numbers for Mk1 first and second gear synchros to confirm what I have would be great too. Part numbers I have are : 24431-82040 and 24431-82140
Also I need part numbers for Mk2 springs 8 & 12 in the gear shifting mechanism pic.

Can someone help? Pleeeeaseeee =)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:17 pm 
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Reverse selector spring: 9605 1545
Low speed selector spring: 9605 1544

1985-1988 M Shift Controls/Manual Transmission Gearshift Fork
From Dealer's Manual Page: SU04-004

All the MK1's used the 9605 prefix pretty much for the part numbers.

Here are the synchronizer ring part numbers for the MK1 tranny-
9605 1891 'ring, synchronizer'
9605 4863 'ring, low gear synchronizer'
9605 3271 'ring, 2nd gear synchronizer'

If you have illustration SU04-001, those three correspond to items
34
35
36



Here is a link for some cross referencing:
http://www.chrisross.name/images/transm ... ebuild.pdf
He says it is #34 in his diagram, but his 'diagram' may be a newer drawing than the MK1...
He's up in Caledonia, and his information is about 8 years old.
Here's some pictures of his transmission:
http://www.chrisross.name/rebuild.htm
taken in 2006

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:20 pm 
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http://www.chrisross.name/images/transm ... ebuild.pdf but it looks like is for a 89 and up trans

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:22 pm 
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mxmikie wrote:
http://www.chrisross.name/images/transmission_rebuild.pdf

Mxmikie is on the ball!

Chris Ross ended up destroying his tranny, so be advised.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:30 pm 
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http://parts.nalleygmc.com/products/Che ... 65727.html

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:44 pm 
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OK, so it looks like 24431-63B20 is 2nd gear synchro for Mk2 transmission.

What about 24431-82040 and 24431-82140 , are those Suzuki part numbers for Mk1 1st & 2nd gear synchros ? Would anyone know?

Picture for a gear shifter mechanism is out of my Turbo Sprint service manual but I actually need part numbers for Mk2 select springs. I do not have Mk2 service manual. Shorter spring in Mk2 assembly is exact same as ones in Mk1 transmission and it cures floppy shifter problem on Mk1 T3's and Gti's .

Also , I need Suzuki part numbers since Im trying to source parts from overseas and they do not recognize GM part #


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:02 pm 
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DTM GTi wrote:
OK, so it looks like 24431-63B20 is 2nd gear synchro for Mk2 transmission.

What about 24431-82040 and 24431-82140 , are those Suzuki part numbers for Mk1 1st & 2nd gear synchros ? Would anyone know?

Picture for a gear shifter mechanism is out of my Turbo Sprint service manual but I actually need part numbers for Mk2 select springs. I do not have Mk2 service manual. Shorter spring in Mk2 assembly is exact same as ones in Mk1 transmission and it cures floppy shifter problem on Mk1 T3's and Gti's .

Also , I need Suzuki part numbers since Im trying to source parts from overseas and they do not recognize GM part #

Check it out:



http://www.marutiserbia.com/suzukat/maruti/22.htm



That should solve your problems.
Suzuki is selling a lot more cars now that they've concentrated their manufacturing in Asia.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:14 pm 
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Here's an MK1 schematic:

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but the numbers don't match what I've got.

Any pictures of the 'dream car'???

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:06 pm 
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Phil , big thanks , that confirmed numbers I have , except i had one number mixed up . Second gear synchro # is 24431-82410 instead what i had 24431-82140

Still need to find part # for those springs , hopefully Dattman will chime in


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:05 pm 
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DTM GTi wrote:
Phil , big thanks , that confirmed numbers I have , except i had one number mixed up . Second gear synchro # is 24431-82410 instead what i had 24431-82140

Still need to find part # for those springs , hopefully Dattman will chime in

I gave you OEM part numbers from North America for those 2 springs.

Of course, you could check this link:

http://www.marutiserbia.com/suzukat/maruti/24.htm

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You think 26 and 27 would do?
Notice the roll pins at 12 and 13....lots of em!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Phil N Ed wrote:
DTM GTi wrote:
Phil , big thanks , that confirmed numbers I have , except i had one number mixed up . Second gear synchro # is 24431-82410 instead what i had 24431-82140

Still need to find part # for those springs , hopefully Dattman will chime in

I gave you OEM part numbers from North America for those 2 springs.

Of course, you could check this link:

http://www.marutiserbia.com/suzukat/maruti/24.htm

Image

You think 26 and 27 would do?
Notice the roll pins at 12 and 13....lots of em!


I hate to be pain in the ass but I don't think that's it . I found this PDF https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/582 ... ission.pdf spring I need is on the fifth page , top pic 64B40-7A-5-1 number 3-cam guide return spring
Also GM part numbers don't work out of the North America, I need Suzuki part numbers , someone please.................


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:49 am 
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Anybody who can build a car like you have certainly isn't a pain.

Let's make this easy, so everyone can follow along.
Gallery/
Manual Illustrations & Scans/
Page 11/
Image Title: Manual Transmission 7A-05
Poster: Lihtan
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:28 am
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...and BINGO...
You want an OEM number for part three in the top drawing here:
Image

which is a close up of the 'Gear Shift Mechanism'

Image

I recommend that those who don't have a Factory Service Manual save the PDF file that you've linked because some of the transmission scans that Lihtan uploaded are no longer working.
Maybe the boys down under can give you a Factory part number better than the old ones I've given from the North American market.

Any recent pictures of that dream car of yours?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:30 am 
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Phil , thank you for posting the details.

Unfortunately no new pics of Mk1 Gti. I was overseas this whole summer playing with Mk2 Gti , fixing little things and reversing suspension back to factory issue after 10 years of polyurethane bushings on really bad roads. I will be also looking to switch to 3dr Metro springs since it does not look like roads will be Arizona quality, anytime soon, in the area I normally drive that car.


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