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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:21 pm 
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Two years and still not done :mrgreen:
Things have changed over the years.
It's going to have a Honda CX500 engine and drive train in it. Hopefully converted to electric later.
john :D :D



I'm building a mini based three wheeler that will have a metro 3 cylinder engine and transmission.
john :D


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why not put a suzuki race bike engine in it:P would be cool...but thats alot of work your doing and its comin along great. hope it works out well in the end for you


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Thanks,
I have a Honda cx500 bike frame (with title) that I'm going to use for the back wheel.
I want to get it on its wheels by summer.
Then get it running with a gas motor by the end of summer.
The plan is to make it a hybrid electric.
john :D


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I'm building a mini based three wheeler that will have a metro 3 cylinder engine and transmission.
john :D
PS. sort acending and it will make more sence. Maybe.

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Wish a I had the scones to do something like that
please keep us posted on how it goes with pictures

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The blue mini is going to be "restored"
It will look like a mini, but it will have a Suzuki engine and trans.
Also it will have a Honda torsionbar front suspension.
You can see the left half sitting on the drivers crosmember.
john

PS. how do I rearrange my photos in my gallery?


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PS. how do I rearange my photos in my galery?

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the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
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johnsn wrote:
...PS. how do I rearange my photos in my galery?

You can't, but you may want to directly embed them inside this thread.

Info on how to post images:
http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=4

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You got big cahones.

Had a guy call the shop a couple weeks ago looking to get us to weld a motorcycle front end onto a metro, didnt elaborate any more and we had to turn him away (liability reasons) Now i'm curious as hell since the guy is local.

Keep up the good work, your making it a convert?


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Keep up the good work, your making it a convert?

Thanks Scott. I don't know if I'll go to the trouble of a folding top.
No top to start. Maybe a removable top later.
john :D
EDIT:As you can see later in the thred I put a top on it. It rains too much in Oregon to not have a top.


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I learned how to post pictures

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first mock-up in the garage last winter


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lots of air not much metal


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this summer, more metal. still too much air


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still too much air


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I don't know if I want to use a fiberglass front end
john :D


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I want to make this all electric someday.
I think I'll start making it all gas to get it on the road.
Then add an electric motor and some batteries.


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Here is a model with two seats all electric.
I think it's too long.


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Here is a model with one seat all electric.
Not too long, but crowded with batteries.
I'll go with this.

Now to building.

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mini sub-frame, crosmember, and toe-board.

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Fabricate the firewall

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weld the firewall to the cowl.

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weld on the crosmember


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weld on the toe-board


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fab inner fender-wells
:D


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Then I moved it in the garage


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Added 1.5" tubing to re-enforcements for the A pillar
Used threaded rod and conduit to pull the post into position


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Like this, everything held in position

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Then welded in place


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Added filler metal and door mounting brackets
I like to weld :D :D
But I don't like to get burnt Image :shock: :censor:
john


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Pictures almost caught up with the work.



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bottom cross tube

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rocker re-enforcement


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steering rack mount


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door mount brackets and shock mounts


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left rocker


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with left rockers and a and b pillar and door step :D :D


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was playing around...


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steel front end mock-up

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the wheel will stick out a little :ez_l0l:


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I need to be able to rotate the car

johnsn :D :D


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I need to be able to weld at different angles.
so I built this adapter to fit my cherry picker.
I'll need some kind of support for the other end too.


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drivers brakes and suspension


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This weeks work.


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repaired L inner sill


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inner sill. silver weld through primer


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left rocker tube gusset and self etching primer


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left rocker tube gusset and weld through primer


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inner sill clamped in place


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inner sill clamped in place


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inner sill welded in place


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inner sill welded in place
the self etching primer burned from the welds on the other side. that's ok, it was there to prevent rust


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inner sill welded in place. two colors of etching primer


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L door surround with part of the quarter panel
silver weld through primer. red rust encapsulating primer


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inside B pillar view


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inside L inner door step view


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Had a productive weekend. :D


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Left inner sill and support tube, red rust encapsulating


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conduit cross bracing


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sanded and ech primed


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turn buckle to pull right tube into place


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turn buckle to pull right tube into place


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right tube in place. gusset welded in, and cross brace
It was sunny out. :D

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I bought a inner sill/outer rocker assembly. but I took it apart because it was not rust treated between the panels


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right inner sill welded in. the camera shutter didn't open all the way


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right inner sill welded in. I decided to weld patches in the holes after welding the sill in. Less warping.


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welded in the start of the seat mount

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silver weld through primer. sunny day :D


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doing some CAD work on the model


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found old pictures of a wheel arch mock-up


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:puker: :thwack:


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maybe something like this :D

Anyone reading this?
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thats a lot of pics. looks like it will turn out pretty nice

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Very cool project john
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I'm watching just don't want to clutter up your post
Have you thought of a color yet ??----------JV&S
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the 3 banger isn't at all a "grenade." it's a tough little son of a bitch doing a big job. respect it.
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I didn't save anything.Vehicles are to me, like little boys are to Tommy.Toys to be abused for my own personal pleasure.
jrjd wrote:
"Driving a Swift GTi is like driving a bike in your house".


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:D Something bright that will show up :D
It'll be a small car. So I want it to be seen. It will be multi colored for a long time.
It has a name. Sparky. edit maybe not :-P
john :D


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Ive been working on the frame design.


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this will tie into the motorcycle frame.


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This weekend I got the Honda motorcycle frame on.
I used pipe and conduit with turn buckles to line everything up.

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side view

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setup to mount Honda frame. Turnbuckles for adjustment.


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Vice grips for a stop to keep the bike frame from sliding down too far.


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Honda frame installed the first time.


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long :shock: Think how long it would be with two seats. Add 24 inches


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Plywood floor boards. Will be replaced with steel.


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conduit bracing


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conduit is cheep and useful :D


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Do I need this hump?


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side view with rear suspension and wheel. That wheel is too low!


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turn buckle to pull the frame into place.


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cut frame to put stiffener between shock mounts

As I was building the cross-brace I ran out of welding gas :-P
Also when I cut out the bracing for the upright, I found out the turn buckles to the windshield posts where not stiff enough and the Honda frame went out of alignment.
So back to the drawing board. :furious:


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re-enforcing tubes, and conduit cut to hold wheel at full spring compression.

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New bracing

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Old swivel chair adjuster used as a jack

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Turn buckle to pull the frame into place. Used the jack to raise the honda frame. You can see how much I raised the Honda frame.

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All done. (I wish). Still need to replace the conduit that goes to the front.
It's on one wheel! :D


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Just one question, You live in 'merika yeas? So what are you doing with a mini AND a morris minor???

That morrie would be worth a mint there, surely?

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Just one question, You live in 'merika yeas? So what are you doing with a mini AND a morris minor???

That morrie would be worth a mint there, surely?


They imported Morris Minors and Minis in to the USA.
I like them. Morris Minors don't cost a lot compared to the Mini. Maybe 1/2 to 1/3.
I'm thinking of putting a Suzuki engine and a samurai transmission in the Morris.
john :D


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