TeamSwift

Home of the Suzuki mini-compacts ! Your Home for all things Suzuki Swift, Geo Metro, Holden Barina, Chevy Sprint, Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Cultus. TeamSwift is a technical performance oriented community!
It is currently Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:11 am

Underbody braces, turbos and more!

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:48 am
Posts: 725
Location: Winnipeg
16 valve SOHC camshaft specs

Superfly...i've checked cam specs on Esteem 1.6, and Swift 1.3 16 valve SOHC engines, and found them to be almost identical. You've said the 1.6 tracker/Geo (truck) engine has a different cam, do you recall how different it is?

Darcy


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:48 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
suprf1y wrote:
For comparison, stock profiles are

Lift/Duration at .050"

85-87 1.0/3cyl 330L /192D
89-01 1.0/3cyl 330 /198
GT Int 295L/192D Ex295L /198D
Cultus In 305/L192 Ex305/D198
1.3 8V 330L/192D
1.3 16V SOHC (98-01) 308L/184D Ex 308/189
1.6 8V 356L/202D
1.6 16V (truck/sedan)In 308L/192D Ex308L/198D


What are you up to now?

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:48 am
Posts: 725
Location: Winnipeg
I'm just gathering parts for further testing, and wondering if i should grab the cam from a truck engine before it's too cold to go outside....Brrrr, Winterpeg!
I will probably post a lot of dyno results of Turbo Suzuki engine testing starting in January.
Darcy


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:31 am 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
Stop fooling around and put a real cam in that thing.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:48 am
Posts: 725
Location: Winnipeg
I have a few different versions of real cams...all for the twin cam head...and for the moment, i'm having some single cam fun! ...yes, it'd be nice to have a better cam for the SOHC too, and know that you're more than up to the task, but i've put such huge effort into a real twin cam project, that i can't justify spending a lot on the single cam, just to put it in the corner as a spare.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:10 pm
Posts: 880
Location: Vancouver, WA
let me know how that truck cam works out for you.

trucks have a distributor drive gear on the back instead of the trigger for the CMP.

_________________
98 swift 1.6 16v swap
03 cobra bolt ons
97 3000gt vr4 e85, high comp, bolt ons
too many others to list


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:14 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:08 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Canada
So, for more low end vacuum, for throttle response and pulling power, for a 1993 Tracker G16A, I should source a G13A cam?
Distributor that would be compatible with that would be....?
Can said cam and distributor be utilized w/removing the existing low mile head?

Going to premium gasoline is no problem, that might be the only downside I can see. (cyl Press)

I'm new here, and new to the brand, but I do know what I am doing in a general sense of modding and cam specs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:08 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Canada
who does regrinds for G16a's? Looking for more lift, less dur. (Yeah, I'm weird...lol)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 25, 2006 10:52 pm
Posts: 59
Location: jamaica
iadr wrote:
who does regrinds for G16a's? Looking for more lift, less dur. (Yeah, I'm weird...lol)


id like 2 know also.
8)

_________________
wish i had a car like runbag, wonder if he would help me build 1?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:10 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21867&p=168348#p168348

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:50 am
Posts: 13
Location: Bangalore (the city of India's fastest cars)
Is the reground camshaft for the G13B (distributor type) and G16B (distributorless type) the same one?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:40 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
I generally grind the same profiles on both of them.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:50 am
Posts: 13
Location: Bangalore (the city of India's fastest cars)
suprf1y wrote:
I generally grind the same profiles on both of them.
What I meant is, can a cam from a G13B head be used in a G16B head? Does it require any modifications to be made given that the G16B is distributorless? In India I have heard some tuners say that the end bit of the cam that houses the connection to the distributorless type can be swapped from the G13B's to the G16B's and can be used on the Baleno. Wanted to know if such a thing is possible or not.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:22 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
Quote:
Does it require any modifications to be made given that the G16B is distributorless?


If the G16 is dist-less, then they are the same cam.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:50 am
Posts: 13
Location: Bangalore (the city of India's fastest cars)
suprf1y wrote:
Quote:
Does it require any modifications to be made given that the G16B is distributorless?


If the G16 is dist-less, then they are the same cam.

Yes the G16B we get here is Distributorless type. Whereas the G13B we get in India is distributor type. So was wondering how they could use a cam from a distributor type engine and use the same on a distributorless type setup.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:22 am 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
You can't do it without a lot of work.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 8:16 am
Posts: 55
Location: In my swift
Yes I know its an old thread....
But does anyone know the rocker ratio on the sohc 16v 1.6 ?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:55 pm 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
Give or take, about 1.5. The numbers listed are gross lift, so the lobe dimensions would be the lift divided by 1.5.

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:47 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 8:16 am
Posts: 55
Location: In my swift
Thank you. Just to clarify, this wouldnt apply to both ex and in though would it ?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:23 am 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:16 am
Posts: 8033
Location: Ontario, Canada
Why not?

_________________
Contact 3tech: g10pro@rocketmail.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group