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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Sorry for all the changes folks, I'm trying to accomodate the majority with regards to the meet time and location. Having said that, all the feedback I've recieved from you all clearly indicates that a Southern California meet on December 15th in the Palm Springs area is the best bet.
Give me your feedback on this proposed date and location...more to come.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:03 am 
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Hey that sounds great!

I grew up in Kentucky, where Metros were fairly common (what I learned to drive in) but GTs basically didn't exist. The one I bought a few years ago is still the only one I've ever seen.

I'll have to look closely at time and date to see what will work. I've got a new baby to deal with, but if there's any way I can make it I would love to hang out.

It might be too much, but if we were going to "cruise", I would suggest Glendora Mountain Road. I haven't been there yet, but there are some DSM guys I know that regularly meet in that area and then run the canyon. It looks fun!

Also, if you are really from N. Las Vegas, you should meet me at an SCCA autocross event at some point. I tend to split events up between Las Vegas and Calclub. I don't think I can make the next one due to baby+distance, but they are running on the airport in St. George UT, which should be absolutely awesome.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:54 pm 
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Well allright!...I hope you can get a kitchen pass to come out. As I said, the date and time are tentative. So far it would be just you and I...let's hope more people show interest.
Conrat's on the baby by the way.
You nornally won't find me at any SCCA events but I would come out to see a Swift on course.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:04 pm 
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Location: Palm Springs: Too hot from June to Oct.!
Phil N Ed might be able to bring an old Suzuki.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:52 pm 
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We are now 3...anybody else?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:16 pm 
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Sounds pretty cool to me. I live in Henderson, NV. That is really close to N. Las Vegas. Might have to spray my SK8 with a primer so all my parts don't look like a rainbow car. :-)

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:56 am 
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Cool...I live just minutes walking disatnce from Sam Boyd Stadium.
If you can make it...we should definitely convoy to Cali.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:58 pm 
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Dec.15 sounds good to me. I would drive to LV or LA . Its been a long time since last South West meet . Maybe we can post some pics afterwards with everyone standing next to their cars in T-shirts and shorts for our comrades in Great White North :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:53 pm 
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LV would be way better for me! I 100% would attend that here in town :D

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Well you know I am not really closer to Las Vegas but I'm right in between Vegas and LA. Phil n' Ed is definitely not closer to Vegas.

If there was anything to do or see in the area I'd suggest meeting up in Barstow, but there definitely isn't.

Still, Cars and Coffee seems like a fun gig to check out with other Swift owners, so I'd probably attend.

That being said, though it's much more complicated to work out and a time consuming thing to do, I would still love to do a cruise at Glendora Mountain Road someday. I only worry that someone will either want to drive enough faster than me that I feel like a dork slowing everyone up or enough slower than me that I feel like I'm not having as much fun as I would like :roll: Has anybody here driven it or even know what I'm talking about? We could discuss at Cars and Coffee I suppose.

For those who do live in Las Vegas the next autocross events are on Nov. 18th and Dec. 2. We're still working out what we want to do next weekend, not sure about the 2nd, but I'll post here to let you all know if I'm going before hand in case you want to come out and watch me beat corvettes :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:02 am 
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Teeth,

You're right about you and Phil's location relative to LV. It's hard to accomodate everyone. We may have to do a mini meet in both cities.
So you say you'll be at SCCA events on Nov 18th and Dec 2nd? :( I will be in LA on both those dates.


Nixmixin,

We need to meet at Cars and Coffee one weekend soon...we live too close to each other not to.

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Dang , maybe we will have to stick with original plan . Just checked Google Maps for Glendora Mountain Road and you know what I saw ? My favorite kind of race track :D :D
I'd be OK with meeting in Calabasas like we did two times ago . There is whole host of great roads West of LA. Like Mulholland , Latigo , Stunt , Piuma , Las Flores Canyon , Topanga Canyon road etc.

Well , lets see what Phil has to say . Im OK with it either way . I've been working the phone with local AZ guys I know . Cant promise anyone else to show up from AZ but me , so far.

Maybe we should look at old LA meet threads and PM everyone that attended then and let them know ?

On the other hand I have not been in Vegas for some time . It would be fun weekend hanging out on Strip and Freemont street . Cars and coffee sounds good too . Is there any really twisty canyon roads around Vegas ? GMaps here I come :)


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Location: Palm Springs: Too hot from June to Oct.!
243 South of I-10 to Idyllwild is always a good drive. It starts about 10 minutes from here:
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Here are two views along the way:
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and the more panoramic
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It runs for 20 miles to the arts/craftsy town of Idyllwild:
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where lunch can set you back anywhere from $5 to $50 :shock: :shock: :shock:
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There may even be snow along the way during that time of the year.
Cabins may be low priced if booked in advanced, especially in a group buy.

A Vegas meet has been in the works for a long time and I'm sure we'll do one too.

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Lots of cool stuff to do. The advantage of GMR is that it is limited access--a bridge out at one end means the only traffic are enthusiasts having fun with their cars/motorcycles.

The disadvantage is that for precisely that reason you might be passed by an idiot kid on a blind curve. Also, unlike PnE's suggested run, it is a time consuming destination on it's own and doesn't really get you from anywhere to anywhere.

I haven't run GMR yet though, just heard about it. I'll actually do that, see how long it takes and what the deal is.

I don't see why some of us couldn't meet up to do all of the above eventually, starting with Cars and Coffee and then meeting up again sometime later to cruise 243 and again to run GMR.

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I'd be up for LA area, Lv might be a bit much.


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LA would be my first choice. Vegas after that. But although I am in the very early stages of getting this guy working, I think I am in. I will just be the ugly step sister right now.

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Well, update for me is that my wife has leave before the 15th of December, but that doesn't mean I won't make it for Cars and Coffee, though it is a bit less likely.

It sucks because you have to pay $25 to get in to the raceway regardless of purpose, but I will be autocrossing this Sunday in Las Vegas at the dragway.

Just randomly, I am pleased to see so many Suzuki fanatics in the vicinity, however we figure out how to meet up...

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Phil , I like :) Just checked out 243 South . That entire stretch from Benning to Hemet looks great . How is the traffic on Sat. around lunch time :razz: . Looks like we would have more people for LA area location anyway . Maybe just hang out on East side of LA . Palm Springs has few hotels and motels . Already found rooms for $57


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:47 am 
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I'm down for LA or Vegas.

I've driven 243 many times it is very beautiful. What would be really cool would be a loop. Start at Phils, hit 243 to 74 into Palm Desert then 111 back through Palm Springs to the 10 back to Phils. We could stop for food or coffee on the strip in Palm Springs.

Or we could do a cruise in Vegas down to the Hoover Dam or somewhere else photogenic. Maybe a day trip to Death Valley.

Either way I'm open to either location.


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Teeth wrote:
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That being said, though it's much more complicated to work out and a time consuming thing to do, I would still love to do a cruise at Glendora Mountain Road someday. I only worry that someone will either want to drive enough faster than me that I feel like a dork slowing everyone up or enough slower than me that I feel like I'm not having as much fun as I would like :roll: Has anybody here driven it or even know what I'm talking about? We could discuss at Cars and Coffee I suppose....


ive previously lived in the city of Glendora, nice place. so have been on the GMR route many times; although now that im closer to LA i do prefer Mt. Wilson road, but of course it's still close & definitely worth a drive. GMR is quite technical which is always good, and there is K-rail in places where cars have gone off; really a great road.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:59 am 
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Damn you guys . You gonna make me load Mk1 Gti on a trailer and my bike on a truck and bring both toys for few days of storming all those roads you are talking about . Been on Gmaps for a while checking all of them . I love technical :twisted:


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Growing up in the L.A. area, I know all the roads mentioned above.
Chantry Flats road hasn't been mentioned, and it is a spectacular drive.
Having keys to all the Forest Service gates in the Angeles National Forest, I've driven the dirt Mt. Wilson Toll Road many times. It probably wouldn't be a great road at this time of year. It is too steep, not paved, and the latest forest fire virtually guarantees it will be impassable, except by foot or horse.

The paved mountain roads of Southern California were built in the 1930's for the old Model T's and A's. At that time, 30 mph was the speed limit, people would pack a lunch, the family would hop into the car, and their adventure might include a stop along the way for a hike and/or a picnic.

Malibu Canyon Road, on the west side of Los Angeles is a popular destination.
The last time we ran that road, as DTM GTI will tell you, we were in the company of Ferraris, etc. and posted the videos to prove it.
The problem with that Road is its location. You have to traverse several highly populated Valleys:
-San Bernardino
-Pomona
-San Gabriel
-Los Angeles
(you get the idea).
We picked the right time to run that road: Summer and ended our run on the coast, overlooking the Pacific as the sun set into the Ocean. It gives you some time to reflect upon Nature.

The Banning-Idyllwild Panoramic Highway is almost as high in altitude as the Angeles Crest Highway.
As we approach December, you will want to take that into consideration. Lower altitude = less freezing temperatures outside the car.
During the Spring and Summer, the Angeles Crest Highway is THE destination for motorcycles and can provide an exhilarating experience for the most seasoned of bikers.
As this potential gathering is a little closer to Winter, a run from the warmer desert floor, up to the 5,000 foot Idyllwild/Pine Cove area can be a great compromise.
(Those in Denver can appreciate Idyllwild, as it is about the same altitude.)

Highway 243 began as a foot, then horse, wagon, and finally Model T road with many turns. Once you get up the switchbacks, you get a great view of the Mountain Pass area and the road unwinds a bit. It doesn't get the publicity like the Crest Highway as it is further from Hollywood.
About 20 minutes into your trip, there is Lake Fulmor which has maybe 15 parking spaces and several picnic tables. It is small and quiet and a good place to catch some nature, check your oil, or stretch your legs. Try finding it on Google Maps.

Back to wizewun's suggestion of a scenic loop:
(Banning/Idyllwild/Palm Desert)
According to Google maps, 67 miles or about an hour and a half.
If you are into tuned suspension and hard driving, that loop can give you a hair raising ride, comparable to the Angeles Crest Highway/Azusa Canyon (Highway 39) loop, especially if you want to 'hammer down'.
When you drop back to Palm Desert, there are some high end malls and warmer air.
You'll remove your jacket and settle for a tee shirt.
It is an excellent suggestion.
Teamswift member deebee used an MK1 and did this loop a while back.
Maybe he could chime in.

If you were adventurous, the road also winds South all the way to San Diego and is freshly repaved in several parts. Along the way are
-trendy back woods Casinos
-Wineries
-road side fruit and vegetable vendors
-gliders
http://www.skysailing.com/
Again, this is a scenic route and sparsely settled.
Your cell phone may or may not have coverage.
These roads are safe and fun if you keep the rubber on the road.
No matter which road you decide, make sure your car has no major oil or coolant leaks.
It is a long way to the nearest service station.
And bring your camera...

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I need to get mine off the jack stands before I can commit to anything, but making a So-Cal event isn't impossible for me.

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K . Think I already picked the hotel :D Ivy Palm Resort & Spa . $57 a night for two people right on 111 at the end of the Strip . Walking distance to all the night life and as Phil tells me there is some good night life there :D


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This was posted over at Geometroforum and i'm pretty sure it was by Phils alter ego over there. Either way it sets up an itinerary that sounds pretty good.

There will be a small meet/run of the Chevrolet Sprint/Suzuki Forsa/Suzuki Swift/Geo Metro owners/enthusiasts of the Southwest USA during the weekend of December 14, 2012.

Here are some of the places you may join the group:

Friday night: Downtown Palm Springs
Secure free parking with 24 hour video surveillance at the Spa Resort Casino.
'Hair of the Dog'/Village Pub/Dickie O'Neals/O'Leary's
(... to be decided) for evening drinks
Nightclub activity: from 10 pm at Zelda's (google images)

Saturday morning:
Breakfast 8-9:30 - Wheel Inn, Cabazon
Road rally/assault - Highway 243 from I-10 South up and into the National Forest.
Steep mountain road with sharp curves and panoramic views...bring a camera
Break - 10:30-11:00 Lake Fulmor (15.1 miles/24 minutes after leaving the freeway)
Lunch 12:00- Idyllwild/Twin Pines

Saturday afternoon:
Continue on scenic loop from Idyllwild south 3 miles to Highway 74 East (Prairie to Pines Hwy)
(tighten that seat belt)
3 pm - meet at
The Shops at El Paseo/Westfield Shopping Plaza Palm Desert (to be decided)
and assess the damage...
That should wrap up the run.

Admission: Free
Must you bring a Metro/Swift/Sprint? No.
Requirements: None
Cost: will vary according to your budget. It can be as little as the cost of gas to a few hundred dollars depending on where you sleep, who you meet, and how well your car withstands the mountain road.


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