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 Post subject: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:52 am 
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Just bought this tonight for 500 bucks. Runs like a top.
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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:48 pm 
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Nice find. It looks like you only had to pay $499.90 since there is a dime in the console. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:57 pm 
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Ha, ha, thanks, and it was so pitch black last night when I bought it and drove it home I didn't see those McDonalds Monopoly stickers 'til now, I'm going to go and see if maybe I also scored a Big Mac. I hope so. I haven't even looked in the trunk yet because I can't open it because part of the reason it was so cheap is because half the key is snapped off in the ignition and the rest of the reason for the good deal is because the previous owner I bought it from flew back home to Winterpeg this morning. And what makes me super happy is that it's a 5 speed manual transmission, which aren't common in sedans, most sedans I've seen have automatic transmissions, which I don't like.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:05 am 
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coasterII wrote:
Just bought this tonight for 500 bucks. Runs like a top.



So it just goes round and round - probably a broken steering link .. hahaha

Good bargain ... is it a 1600?

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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:31 am 
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neo_mk1 wrote:
coasterII wrote:

Good bargain ... is it a 1600?



No, over here all these sedans just have the 1.3 litre SOHC engine. The pre '98 sedans just have throttle body fuel injection whereas the '98 and up sedans have a much better performing multi point fuel injection 1.3 litre SOHC. At least my '98 Chevrolet Metro sedan did. It might also have had 16 valves as opposed to eight valves on the pre '98s. That's O.K. though, this '96 4DrSdn is just going to be my fuel saving taking it easy daily driver. My other Mk1 turbos and '90 Swift GTi and whatnot are going to be my fun cars.
I also think this car may have come from Kelowna, in B.C.'s interior which has the same annual rainfall as a desert, so it might be an almost rust free car.
And this is a 1996 Geo Metro, not a 1995 like I mistakenly originally posted.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:20 am 
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Just some FYI's
The 4 door car transmissions use the gt clutch, gears, mounting brackets and thicker ring and pinion 3.79 or 4.10.
Pull the valve cover. You may also have the roller cam setup in that car. For sure the oil pump is
the high volume one. Thicker pump gears.
Move the fuel filter from in front of the gas tank up to the firewall, a must do if you plan on keeping the car.
If you can find a 98 engine with engine harness, it is worth swapping over. The 98 on stock exhaust will get you
45 mpg at 65 mph. The port injection on the 98 engine works much better then the 95-97 throttle body injection.
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97 Geo Metro LSI,1.3L-GT-DOHC-16v,4.10 5-speed,A/C,170,000,suspension lowered 1",4 wheel disk brakes,15"alloy wheels with 185/50-15 Toyo's,GT bucket seats,analog oil pressure gauge,cruise control, new paint job. 40 mpg at 65 mph.
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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:51 am 
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^ great stuff fainya, thanks. I have 5 or 6 or something sedans and they are all keepers so that's very useful information for me. although its no longer in my possession one of my sedans is a 1998 so i know what an excellent improvement the MPFI and manual transmission gearing is with overdrive in 4th and 5th and the engine putting out the tourgue for it. swapping the 98 and up engine trans and electronics into the earlier cars is an excellent upgrade but for my level of mechanicing experience and the time involved I'm more inclined to keep my eye out for 98 and up manual transmission sedans for sale for cheap and buy them if i can. I'm currently about half way through removing the steering column in this thread's sedan to bring it to the locksmith to get the broken key removed and a new one made. the locksmith suggested using a chisel or punch to start the lock cylinder security screws turning but i haven't had much luck with that so far. I might try removing the instrument panel surround to give me more room and try again though, because that would be easier than removing the whole column. I just finsihed removing and replacing the column in my 88 firefly to get a key made and that was easier because its less cluttered than the 96 sedan column. thanks again for the info, I know that you know these cars inside and out and back to front.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:40 pm 
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I wish I could find a rust free 5speed around here. Preferably with a bad motor as I have 2 good 95 1,3 4 cyl. laying around (Both 5 speed trannys are spoken for). Does anyone have the Phone number for the used car factory so I can order the one I want???? :lol: :lol: Best wishes each, Jonathan

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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:28 pm 
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On the steering column. I found it faster to remove the old column to get the security screws out. I used left hand drill bits that work very well for me. THey always act like they will not work until you get to the size thats almost the same as the thread your drilling out and then at the last minute "puff" it removes the threads.
The bolts that hold the steering column to the dash get replaced to standard hex head bolts too.

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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:20 pm 
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just drop the colum down and use a sharp chisel & hammer to turn them dont worry about the saddle they are in it will take a beating
once you get it out drill out the three rool pins that hold the key cylinder push the broken key out the back
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then try this ....jv&s
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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:18 am 
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Prairie to Pine Co. wrote:
I wish I could find a rust free 5speed around here.


I doubt you will. Rust free cars can probably only be found in dry areas like Arizona ans California and such.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:27 am 
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Thanks for the ignition cylinder removal tips Fainya and JV&S. That five speed sedan is the good running and driveable sedan I want to insure next because the other good running and driveable sedans I have are automatics which I don't like as much. I only bought the automatics because they were so cheap and because I like those Swift, Geo Firefly sedans and I like to have lots of backup cars.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
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fainya wrote:
Just some FYI's
The 4 door car transmissions use the gt clutch, gears, mounting brackets and thicker ring and pinion 3.79 or 4.10.


I've been thinking about this. So, would the transmission and clutch from jamest's 1989 Swift GTi , which I picked up at the wrecker, fit into another sedan I have, my 1994 Swift sedan? I started a clutch job on that 1994 Swift sedan about three years ago but I still haven't reinstalled the flywheel I had machined and I can't remember if I bought a clutch kit for it yet or not, so if I haven't bought those parts yet I would prefer to install the 89 GTi clutch and transmission which is a new clutch with only 500 miles on it.


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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
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The transmissions are the same externally. Internals are bigger 1st gear, ring and pinion, stronger differential. Ring and pinion
for 1.0L should be 4.39 to 4.10. For the 1.3L 4.10 to 3.79 from the factory.

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 Post subject: Re: 500bucks.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:19 am 
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Everything will fit. You will gain a fair bit of gearing which will,increase performance but also increase cruising speed rpm. That sedan will have came with 3.52 ratio final drive, gti donor would be 4:10. The 3.79 ratio started with the 96 models. I've swapped from 3.79 to 4.10's on the 1.3 sohc and was surprised to find very little difference in either performance or economy. To the unknowing driver, I'd guess most people wouldn't notice the difference, perhaps because they changed the first gear ratio, and also the sohc engines seem to have a fairly broad torque band. That said, the 3.52 trans I do find noticeable in cars, it feels draggy to me, like the engine is working pretty hard but the 1.3 does ok with it. I'd bet fuel mileage change is minimal with most ratio Changes from what I've found.

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