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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:00 pm 
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alright, the newly re-designed rear toe-bars are ready for ordering.

I have re-engineered them with much larger, 3/4" ChroMo bodied, nylon lined, hardened steel ball rod-ends and 1" black powder coated t6-6061 hex aluminum.

the new 6061-t6 hex bars are 2 pounds, 2 ounces each.

the bars are now priced at $169 USD shipped to the continental USA. other shipping destinations are extra.

the bars are a tight fit due to the size of the rod ends. the cam-centric rear toe adjusters on the rear of the car need to be adjusted to their full outboard location when installing the arms.

the arms still use the stock 12mm mounting hardware unless custom ordered for a different size.

1" .156 wall ChroMo tubing is available for a price, but i dont have it finalized yet.

1" solid 7075 aluminum round bar in black powder coat is now available for those who want the ultimate strength bar. $199 USD shipped to the 48 states.

people keep PMing me and asking for stronger so im offering it.....


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:07 am 
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:cheers: I am glad I waited!

Saving my pennies!

These will fit the 1998, 3/5?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:19 am 
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Yes they will fit. Just let me know when you are ready.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:54 am 
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Are the ones pictured 1 inch chrome tubing?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:44 am 
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It shows that the aluminum ones are black powdercoated hex . They sure look stout.


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Are those heim joints coarse or fine thread?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:58 am 
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Pictured bars are aluminum hex. I'm not sure on the thread pitch, first time I've been asked that one...I'll have to get back to you on that one.....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:58 am 
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Hi, I bought the older style you first came out. What is the difference between the old & new joints? What makes the Teflon coated joints better?

My only thought about the newer / stronger bars are - why make them bigger and stronger? The sheet metal mount welded to the car will rip, bend, & tear long before the 7/8" 6000 series t6 aluminum metal tubes will bend or the 5/8" hem joints will break?

Just FYI - The older style bars I have are excellent quality!

Good luck, Shimaze

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:28 pm 
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It's all about the load on the rod end and how long it will last.

You are correct, the old bars were more than strong enough.

The rod ends are the same, just larger

But I did have a customer want me to give them new bars because a tire shop jacked the car up by the bars and bent them.

Also, after somewhere in the neighborhood of 60,000 miles, I developed some wear in the rod ends of one of my bars.

I started to hear a clicking sound in the left rear with hard transitions left to right. Upon inspection, I had some play in that bar.

After talking to my fabricator, and measuring the pockets, we decided to go to 3/4 inch rod ends.

After fitting the new bars, the clicking persisted, and I have now found that my trunk floor is damaged where I drilled the sway bar mounts thru. It is ripped and getting worse.

The new bars should last quite a bit longer than the old ones, and just might survive the car being lifted by them.....please don't do this.....lol

Shimz...... I hope your bars last forever.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:24 pm 
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I also started a new thread In the correct location....sorry... It's in the manufacturers section now.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:50 pm 
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These should move pretty quick! I have his older bars & I like them. The new bars are even better!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:31 pm 
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As requested, I have come up with an alternate design for those who do not want rod ends on their cars.

Adjustable poly bushed steel bars.

Bars are 7/8ths .095 wall tube

Bushes are 80 duro

Based on past experience with poly bushes on road going cars.... These might squeak.....hence the grease zerks. My blazer drives me nuts in parking lots with speed bumps...it gets lubed whenever possible. I personally would much rather have road noise transmitted through the body by rod ended arms. But I am here to make stuff available.. So here they are.

They will be basic black powder coated.

They weigh 29 ounces each uncoated right now.

They will ship un-assembled in a short box.

price is 145 shipped to the USA.

060 wall 1" ChrMo tubing can be had for 55 dollars extra.

I need about two weeks lead time as I have no coated bar stock in stock........


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:25 am 
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Here's some more pics of finished bars.

Grease zerks are to be pointed down.....lol

Please do not grease these with any kind of petroleum based grease, it will eat the bushings over time

I have a lot of questions asked about grease zerks and whether they are needed with poly bushes

I have been building and driving high performance vehicles for road use and off road use for over 30 years now.

I always put zerks on moving parts when it's possible

I keep a second grease gun with silicone based grease in it for poly bushes, spring shackles, sway bar mounts, etc

I hate squeaky bushings so it's absolutely necessary

Another must: this style of poly bushed arm is susceptible to loosening the jamb nuts with hard usage so you want to make sure they are tight, and re-check them every time you grease them with regular oil changes or track maintenance.


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I like those :D


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:25 am 
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Cool....... Buy them soon

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:07 pm 
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shimaze wrote:
These should move pretty quick! I have his older bars & I like them. The new bars are even better!


lets face the facts shimz, we are a dying breed.

there just arent alot of these cars left on the road anymore. i hardly ever see one, and when i do, its usually not anyone that wants to spend any money whatsoever to fix their rust bucket.....lol

the few of these cars still out here tooling around are mostly already rebuilt or modded. not alot of call for these parts.

but i will make sure they can get these parts for the time being. at least until im not able to do business on a computer anymore.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:58 am 
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Swifts may be a dying breed on this continent but there are places they were made till 2003 , like Hungary. They love their Swifts as you can see in numerous YouTube videos . You should consider selling your products in Europe , I think you would find receptive audience.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:43 am 
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They are on bay Europe. Shipping is pretty cost prohibitive I think.

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I am very happy with mine. I bought a set a couple of years back. When I take it to the alignment shop they are amazed that a Geo Metro has such a nice set of adjusters on it.


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LOL. I had the same reaction at Firestone. The "manager" (20 y/o kid) that had never seen an old metro in the shop, said my arms were much nicer than the 300 dollar arms on his civic.

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My builder has one set of shelf stock poly bushed 1" steel arms in black powder coat as above. 125 usd shipped to 48 states.

Not going to make anymore of these till winter is over. Too cold to weld out there.

Email me with your PayPal address and year of your car if you want them.

Dethbrd@hotmail.com

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last set of poly bushed arms now at 119 shipped to the lower 48 guys..... jus' sayin'

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:01 pm 
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How much shipped to Canada? Need these bad for my very project.


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Email me your address so I can check. USPS has skyjacked their prices for shipping to canada since my last sale there.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:02 pm 
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still have these poly bushed arms at 119 to the 48 states.

shipping quotes anywhere else by email or pm

Vacation starts Saturday, so these need to be shipped before then........

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