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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:45 am 
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I'm really interested in turboing my 2002 Suzuki Swift 3 cylinder to use for competition.

What do I need to be able to do this? The engine is stock at the moment.

Any help with this would really be appreciated. I am in the UK so this car does not have the same following that it does overseas so I want to embarrass / upset the norm.

I was thinking of using parts from a Ford Fiesta 'EcoBoost' 1.0 purely because of a similar sized engine & parts are plentiful here - unless someone has a conversion kit.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:43 am 
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It's already been done, by Suzuki. There were turbo MK1 cars, 85-88 and there were a few turbo MK2 cars which had pretty much the same engine as yours. As far as I know they didn't sell them outside of North America, but I could easily be wrong about that.

The difficult thing about adding a turbocharger to an engine is control. The turbo blows in a lot more air, but you need a computer to meter in a lot more fuel to go with it, and you also need a computer to manage the spark timing. There are aftermarket computer systems that will do this, but they require a lot of programming to get them right. This means a lot of fiddly tweaking while running the car on a dynomometer, an expensive proposition.

Using the entire factory setup is much easier, and the factory parts can usually adjust automatically for a modest increase in performance. Once you go past a certain point (say 20% more than stock just as an example) the factory computer gets confused and then you're back to having to come up with your own computer.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:38 am 
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Cheers Woodie.

I was aware of the factory car's, that's why I thought it was an option.

You are right tho, the turbo'd Swift did not make an official appearance in the UK.

I've sent out some feelers to find some parts but had no joy as yet - hence posting here & considering making a bespoke system.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:04 am 
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The stock computer will work ok as high as 4-5 psi boost. After that, see if you can find an extra injector controller to add extra fuel. Igniton timing isn't a concern until you'tr trying to make serious power. Just don't run too much advance, and use premium fuel

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:25 am 
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Walmo wrote:
I'm really interested in turboing my 2002 Suzuki Swift 3 cylinder to use for competition.
What do I need to be able to do this? The engine is stock at the moment.
Any help with this would really be appreciated. I am in the UK so this car does not have the same following that it does overseas so I want to embarrass / upset the norm.
I was thinking of using parts from a Ford Fiesta 'EcoBoost' 1.0 purely because of a similar sized engine & parts are plentiful here - unless someone has a conversion kit.
Cheers,
Pete.

Hello,
I too am like you, and that really interests me!
Use parts of a Fiesta? Not very bad idea but make sure it is compatible!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:29 am 
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Hi,
A Happy New Year to you all.

I want to get some parts from North America for my G10 engine, too.

I have made turbo manifold for G10 but I would like to know what G10T is running for injector/s.
Is it single injector or injectors? The cylinder head has holes ready to drill for MPi so thinking if I can get hold of fuel rail..... you can see where I'm going.

ECU wise, MegaSquirt will work OK with 3 pots as well.

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Atchi


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:15 pm 
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This is a really old thread that used to have photos of 87t1 drilling out the blanks on the non turbo head.
http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php? ... 3&start=50

Atchi you have a pm


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:17 pm 
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I may be able to supply all you need off of the turbo engines from north America, but the shipping could really make the parts pricey. Have everything I think from intake to turbo to complete engine, although could be missing some small detail parts like oil supply line for factory turbo and such

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:29 am 
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Hi guys, greetings from Hungary ;)
(First, sorry for my english, i'll try to do my best )

So i also want turboing my Mk3 Swift 1.0, and i saw that Suzuki produced turboed version for the American and Canadian market.

I want to ask what i need from the G10T engine for my G10A to work well ?

I think the intake manifold and the cylinderhead is basic, but do the N/A and the Turbo camshafts, rods, pistons and crankshafts have any difference ?
I think i also need the ECU of the G10T. That's enoug, or should i get more stuff ?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:33 pm 
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http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=12925

need some G10T parts
1. head ( don't remember if g10 is good but need to bore for injector mount)
2. intake manifold (for all necessary input/output sensors or build your own manifold and research which sensor to use)
3. wiring harness + ECU (or use other system if pro)
4. injectors (or use similar injector like mx6, etc)

need to mod
1. oil for turbo
2. hole for knock sensor
3. exhaust manifold
4. intercooler
5. all turbo parts.
6. fuel pump (use eclipse turbo)

Good luck.

PS. get the donor is better and cheap project but it's already extremely rare.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:17 am 
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since you most likely won't understand the difference between the us and canadian markets, be aware the the 87 - 88 usa market turbo3 cars were much different than the 89 -91 canadian market turbo3 cars. the engines are considerably different.

i believe that the parts you are looking for will be from the canadian only mk2 turbo3 cars so you can limit your parts search to canada. :wink:

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