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Does anyone here know how to build a caralarm that will Electrify the fuckers toching and trying to enter my car?? Dogs pissing at it my burn 2
I looked at it for a while but i never found a site that tells a little more about this kind of alarm system.

From the 'Isn't That A Little Extreme' files, you as well upgrade from electricity to open flame: http://anansi-t.hypermart.net/Archives/981214.htm and http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/africa/9812/11/flame.thrower.car/

"Infobeat (December 14, 1998) - JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) - An inventor says he has a solution to South Africa's soaring carjacking rate: barbecue the carjackers. Charles Fourie's "Blaster" is essentially a flame-thrower mounted on a car's undercarriage. A foot switch sends flames fed by four gas jets beneath the doors out both sides of a car without singeing the vehicle. Fourie said he has installed the Blaster on 25 cars and adds it will stop a carjacker in his tracks. Police Superintendent David Walkley said the device is legal and he has one on his car, the Saturday Star, a Johannesburg weekly, reported. So far, the Blaster remains untested in a real situation. And because flames blast out from both sides of the car and cannot be aimed, there is nothing to prevent a bystander from being torched."

~ Chris

You may want to find out what kind of legal liability concerns exist if you're serious about pulling this off.
Once you have that resolved, get a few of these:


and build one of these:


how you hook this up is to you (yes it's harder than chipping an ECU)

if you did build something like this you would probabsy be thrown in jail...

and any electric shock that big enuf would probably fry everything electricar in the car.

You may find yourself in court over it. When someone or something is fried. I think there is a company in Canada that makes a intergraded stunner for the alarm system. It is like a stun gun or tazer. They put it in the front seats. They upholster them. The new material has small wires in it. When triggered it sends out like 80,000 or 100,000 volts. Stunning the car thef. That way. When you come out to get in your car and find someone knocked out sitting in it. You know what they were doing. Still may get sued by them for shocking them. But I say take them out of the car beat the hell out of them and dump them in a ditch.

booby trapping, even inside your own home is totally illegal here ... on the other hand, my grandfather told me stories about how he used to run electrified strips around the inside of his engine bay back in the 50's 60's @ the car shows for his lead sleds to keep people from trying to steal the chrome bits..

ps. hey lihtan, weren't those images from one of those 'build your own railgun' sites ?

Hey! I Like dogs!!

Man I applaud you for some inventive thinking, but as a scientist I gotta warn you about one major downside....

Ever thought about driving through an electric storm with your electronic beakon activated? I'd had to see you come back to your car after going shopping or something and see it slightly charred grilled. Unfortunately anything shiny, metalic (and assisted by electricity) attracts lightning like you wouldn't believe (whether or not it has rubber touching the ground).

Farmers use electric fences all the time, so why not the cars and as a country kid, I've peed on a few in my time, so it would be honest to say it would be funny seeing a dog piss on an electric car - they don't piss on electric fences anymore....

Liablility factor.Say that an Old lady,is walking,trips over her bag,and collaspes on your car,well she is going to either be a dead old lady,or a rich old lady after a lawsuit.(after installing Car Audio for 8 yrs,you get asked many "favors(i.e. diconnect airbag,remote start on manual trans.)If you do it,it can come back on you. It is sad anyone can sue for anything,,Just put Razor blades behind your radio,so that is a "forced entry" they wont forget.Dont do it where an innocent bystander can get hurt,just do it where the person intending to do harm will go.Inside your car.

Ok it seems to be hard to realise and illegal to do maybe i'll think of something else to add some extra security 2 my car.
Maybe a sticker on the window would help 2 when it says
Secured by Break in and Die alarms

Oh and i also like dogs very much onlynot the kind that pis at my car

yup, it scary some of the shit these guys come up with. I now look at microwave ovens as radio frequency reaction chambers than some box to cook food in

More ideas for theft deterents:
Wire the underside of the driver's side door handle with conductive strips of metal. Have both terminals present, space out 1/8" apart in a repeating manner. No matter where you grab it, it's a complete circuit. Rig the handle to energize only when pulled. (microswitch --> relay ---> sparkgap etc.)

Design mechansim to trap and energize slimjims that are inserted into the window seal (it's not a boobytrap, the guy had no business inserting electrical conductors into the high energy power window motor capacitors )

Rig your door to require two door handles side by side, it's easy for you to open, insert key and pull both handles. But to a theif it's gonna slow him down to have to stop slimjimming to try both handles. Also if you energize both handles something very interesting happens , the electricity will find a path through both arms and travel through the heart. Instant cardiac arrest

Connect your alarm to one of those ultrasonic crowd-control devices. It may be a problem when you find dozens of people running from the vicinity of your car covering their ears in pain.

Store a biological sample of necrotizing fasciitis under your door handle

With all this trouble from door handles, maybe your're better off shaving them

lol, some great ideas, but all this talk about electrcity and cars... didn't you guys see 2F & 2F ... we know what really happens, that's damage to the car.

Damn straight. This is the painful result of when electricity meets cars:

you guys are too young to have had this fun.

when i was a teenager cars had big chromed bumpers on them. i took the front bumper off of my 68 cougar, used rubber to insulate it at it's mounting points, and bolted it back on wired to an old model t ignition coil (wooden case and all.) i'd pull into the local drive-in, car hop service and all, and pull up to a parked car until i touched it's bumper with my full frontal electrode. hit the switch to power up the old 6 vdc coil (with a full 12 volts ) and just when somebody reached for the big chromed door handle, i'd cut the switch.

BAZAPPPP! :burn:

I especially like the electrodes under the door handle idea. You could get a small cap and wire it in the door itself with a kill switch. Then wire that to the battery of the car. Grab a remote fog light relay and hook that up to the power relay of the cap. that way you can turn the cap off when you want to get in the car. Just make sure you are aware of how long it takes to discharge the cap before you open the door.

The advantage here too is that if you get a small enough cap it will still shock the person, but the actual magnitude of the shock is only as big as a static electric shock. If you ever end up getting sued, make sure you present that in the case. the judge will NOT want to set precidence by convitcting you, because if he did the courts would be full of lawsuits for little kids rubbing their feet on the casrpet and touching people.

Not to mention that most high schools do a static show with those static balls and they shock people with it. So if your shock (which is the same as this example) is a big problem then every single educational institution that has done this similar act is in BIG trouble. Make that known to the judge and whoever else needs to hear it and all of a sudden there is nothing wrong with your new "car alarm"

BTW: I speak from experience having been charged with assult with a weapen for a similar act and getting off.

Sorry to doubt your origins, but anyone who grows up in the country knows not to pee on an electric fence (10 acres of grass around and you piss on a white wire?). Or maybe that just NZ. Unless of course its a dare...
Buy a battery operated electric fence unit. it works on 2 D cells and packs a 3500 volt capacitor discharge. This would give a carjacker approximately .9 Seconds to get into your car before the next pulse comes through.
Get creative, wire it up to bare metal threads woven into the upholstery of the passenger seat.
When your co-driver is getting cranky about your driving, press the button...
When she is just nodding off... press the button!
Just don't accidentally press the button when.... On the other hand, PRESS THE BUTTON!

He shoots, HE SCORES...

How many times have you set off your own car alarm by rushing to get out of work on a friday night? I did it so many times i quit putting alarms in my cars. could be a shocking experience with an electrified car alarm system.

since my doors on my car don't lock i'd just put some under the door handle that no one would want to touch
i/e: some thing foul smelling and slimy (not poo) mold or the time tested but still true the inside out used rubber my old room mates still hate me

I think one of the robocop movies shows how to do this--

It may require changing the drivers seat.




good luck

Yeah, what he said. I feel that if some scumbag is going to sue you for breaking into your car then all you have to do is let the courts or police inspect it. Hopefully you would have been smart enough to disable or remove the "electrical" device and the inspection would turn up nothing.

Also, how many criminals would actually report that the vehicle shocked the pi$$ out of them WHILE they were trying to steal it?

How funny would that be to see someone laying next to your car with a slim-jim tightly wedged in his hands, unable to move, and crying for his Mommy? Hella funny if you ask me. Then, because he has a weapon and is sitting next to or against your car, a good old fashion beating would/should be in order.

You could also rig up a kill switch to the ignition through many regular electrical switches inside the car.

F THOSE IDEAS!!!!!

install 8 110 decible air horns to go off with a proximity sensor!!!

i dont want to clean crap from some lowlife, who emptied his bowls onto your front seat!!!

F all the noise. Just wire up a high voltage system. Something big enough to knock the SOB out. If he's out of it before he knows what hit him, then you'll have time to get in the car and drive off before he wakes up!

I wouldn't doubt, in the States at least, some stupid thief suing over a shocking car. I've heard of cases where thieves break into a house, injure themselves, and sue the homeowner!

Just to elaborate on what Ellpee mentioned, the electric fence energiser is a great and easy way to zap people, you just need aluminium foil, run two strips side by side on an insulated surface, ie underside of door handles, just remember you need some way of turning it off remotely, that is if you want to be able to get into your car again.

A good mate of mine used this trick a few years ago to retrain his house pets, half a dozen strips of foil on the front door with a good old Gallagher electric fence unit sooned stopped the dogs from scratching the door to bits, likewise the cat never ever jumped on the kitchen table again after getting a 20,000V shock, cat was ok

Get your self 2-3 disposible flash camera's remove the capacitor and replace the small batt with 2-3 AA Batts This will step up the voltage enough to stop motor control for short periods of time but will not do perminate damage.

High voltage Low amps is what you want.

It is the current that kills you not the voltage.