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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:20 pm 
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just recieved the timing belt for the swift gt dohc that i purchased off of ebay, a lot of the advice from the board was to stick with the oem belt as there have been all sorts of quality & sizing issues w/ aftermarket, however...<br>the belt i'm holding in my hands now is marked pirelli isoran <br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.wizardly.org/swifts/parts/new_belt.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>anyone have any idea what sort of quality this might be & if i should try it or just stick w/ oem ?<br>thanks =) <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:40 pm 
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timing belts are such a serious thing that I would religiously stick with oem. why?<br><br>there are differences (especially with newer cars today) in service intervals depending on geographical location; (TB service in Cali compared to TB service in Sudbury, ON)<br>so, although it may be a far stretch, I would think that an Italian manufacturer may build products that better suit their geographic area as compared a supplier in colder/warmer/more humid/etc. locations...<br><br>I dunno....call me crazy...<br><br>TGstring <p></p><i></i>


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:26 am 
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i just can't see how pirelli would liscence there name to any low-quality products. i can't see timing belts as being specific to the european climate vs. north america.<br> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Keep It!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:41 am 
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Hey n1tr0, I put one of those belts on in the spring when I put my Cams in. I haven't had a problem with it yet. It's a tight squeeze but most of them are...I keep a regular check on it and everything seems to be fine. I wouldn't worry about it not being OEM!<br><br>Hey TGstring, whats wrong with Sudbury, On?? Thats my stomping grounds<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Jake<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub83.ezboard.com/bteamswift.showUserPublicProfile?gid=jake@teamswift>Jake</A> at: 2/11/03 8:44:33 am<br></i>


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 Post subject: Italy??
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:21 am 
Very simple, Your driving a Japanese car do you really want an italian belt on there? I sure wouldn't! Stick with a Suzuki. I don't know why but there is this big myth out there that if something is aftermarket it must be better. NOT TRUE! <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Italy??
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:35 am 
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must be old stock, found this online.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Tsubaki's Toothed Belt Drive Systems<br><br>Besides being the world's largest supplier of auto timing chain, Tsubaki also developed the Toothed Belt and related drive components, and began to supply these products to the market in 1975. Using the development and sales experience gained from this, Tsubaki joined forces in a technical agreement with Italy's Pirelli (later, succeeded by DAYCO PTI), to develop and market an improved version, the Tsubaki Isoran Toothed Belt Drive<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>it's actually a japanese company & "Tsubaki now commands close to 100% of the Japanese timing chain market and now supplies several major auto makers in the United States and Europe."<br> <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Re: Italy??
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 2:14 pm 
Believing that OEM is better than aftermarket is a myth too. Suzuki doesn't make any belts, they just outsource them to whoever got the contract at that moment. I've seen many OEM parts that are prone to premature failure due to manufacturing defects. Example, Grand Vitara rear crank shaft seal and A/C condenser.<br>I've used Pirelli, Gates and Dayco belts and I'm very happy with their quality. My favorite is Gates. Why? Because it manufactures a lot of Industrial application belts, where a belt failure can easily cost $10K to fix. <br><br>Wilfredo <p></p><i></i>


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 Post subject: Gates
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 4:39 pm 
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I Agree with Wilfredo, OEM doesn't alway mean the best.<br><br>If you want a good belt, choose something from Gates. They are from far the most experienced and have the biggest amount of ppl working for them, developping new compounds & thread paterns for belt reliability. The are know as the best on the market. In any industrial aplication where belt are required you can be sure there is a Gates running there. <br>Ours fitness products have lots of belts (steppers, treadmills, bikes, elleptical machines) and all of them are assembled with gate's.<br><br>Just my $300 <br><br>(why 300? 'cause it's the minimal amount of money you'll spend on a head rebuilt in case of belt breaking)<br><br>Jar <p></p><i></i>


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